Kathy writes: "Prior land use was something I thoroughly researched before buying BTW. Ground used for farming...fertilizer and pesticide residue in the ground and/or in well water and/or run-off from NEARBY farms/orchards (I have none).... I may be over the top of this but I also google landfills tosee if there are any near "my" farm markets after learning of a farm (with the usual stand) right next door to a toxic landfill one county over...." Kathy, I don't think you're over the top at all. Our water supply can become contaminated by all sorts of things. This is a big concern in environmental circles. Just Google, "groundwater contamination." If these contaminates can harm humans, they sure as heck can harm animals as well. The Vet School vets felt that the problems with our two dogs who died were highly unusual and most likely caused by some environmental factor. One dogwas a GSD and the other was a different breed, so no common ancestors in the first umpteen generations. My own case was deemed "complicated and interesting," and I'm not related to the dogs. <G> While I do believe that most of the issues in the Breed today are hereditary,I also believe that the environment may play some role in the development of some of the problems. Paulette On 8/21/2014 1:33 PM, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx[1] wrote: ABSOLUTELY! And the dogs are the canaries in the coal mine.... Prior land use was something I thoroughly researched before buying BTW. Ground used forfarming...fertilizer and pesticide residue in the ground and/or in well water and/or run-off from NEARBY farms/orchards (I have none).... I may be over the top of this but I also google landfills to see if there are any near"my" farm markets after learning of a farm (with the usual stand) right next door to a toxic landfill one county over.... Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/[2] In a message dated 8/21/2014 1:05:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx[3] writes: I've often wondered if well water has anything to do with some of the digestive problems we are seeing in the Breed... Several years ago, we bought a new house that was built on old farm land. Periodically, we would get red clay dirt in the water. Two of our dogs died of problems related to the gall bladder and pancreas. I was afflicted with the same problems myself. I've always wondered if the our ground water was contaminated with the fertilizers that were used on the property year after year. Could this have caused the digestive problems in the dogs and myself? At one time, I was interested in conducting a survey regarding dogs on well water. I'm not an environmental engineer, but we do have one in the family. Does anyone think that the well water thing is worth exploring? -- Paulette McGuirt Allemande Shepherds cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx[4] *Ire fortiter quo nemo ante iit* On 8/21/2014 11:43 AM, Sheree Moses wrote: >Well, we may be on to something. The kibble I use is Salmon-based, mixed w/yogurt, eggs and some meat. We feed a lot of raw. And after puppy shots and a booster, I rarely vaccinate dogs that live at home. We did vaccinate for canine influenza, and we do kennel cough vaccine when a dog starts out toshows. But overall, not much. Any volunteers to set up the questionnaire? > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of theShowgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. 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