There is nothing wrong with arguing. If none of us ever argued, we'd all be imorons and no one would ever learn anything. After all, that is the basis of debate...presenting one's own argument for or against a theory or a statement...and then the other side gets to present their argument. Some people argue vehemently...some quit and walk away. There are levels in between, of course. Some try to explain a point of view without giving any reasons for holding that view, and sometimes, an argument or explanation is interpreted as fighting, especially by those who don't WANT to hear any side other than their own. They prefer to remain uninformed. Arguing is what attorneys do, as well as debaters. There's nothing wrong with a good argument...it can clear the air, explain misunderstandings, and expose weaknesses and even strengths. Resorting to namecalling and accusation is not arguing. Those tactics are the resources of the unarmed man (or woman)...unarmed meaning one without a leg to stand on in any discussion or argument. All too often, the people who complain that there is too much argument, or who demand that all arguing cease are the very reason (or whose behaviour is the reason) the argument is necessary. Most of the time, things aren't meant as personal attacks...and it is only when there is no acceptable retort to one's argument that it becomes personal...and that by the person who is without a response. Peggy. ----- Original Message ----- From: <TISHW@xxxxxxx> > I think you misunderstood my use of the term argumentative - or perhaps I > should have used a different word. I agree with you completely about the > list > and discussion of ideas. As you know, as Futurity chair, I was always > willing to listen to ideas and discuss (and right - argumentative was the > wrong > word). > > This List has been very good for discussing issues affecting the breed > and > the Club. Since it is the only List I belong to, I cannot state what > happens > on the other Lists. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================