Whether or not there is an anti-import faction has little to do with the loss of specialty interest. If there is one thing I know for certain about the specialty dog game, it is this... If you show up in the specialty ring with a true star, you will get your wins. In addition to that, if the dog is truly exceptional, people at ringside will be falling over themselves trying to learn who the dog is out of. While they may be surprised to learn it is half import, and while some may be anti-import to a degree that the reaction may be disbelief, there would be no way to deny the dog's quality and there will be respect for that. I have only my perspective to go by as to who propagates the American/Import wars. I've only been on the American side since the war's beginning so it shouldn't be difficult to assume what I see. I have no interest in fueling those battles so I only offer responses based in common sense. It is no secret that anti-American propaganda exists. It is propaganda in my eyes strictly because it is not true according to the dogs I've lived with and the dogs I've met. It does no good to defend my dogs by saying they are smart, or they are not spooks, because the immediate response would be a demand to prove it by titling the dogs in a venue that I have no time for, or desire to be a part of. It matters now how long the war goes on or how often I hear the insults, because I am content in knowing the truth about my own dogs and about other dogs I've known. On the other hand ... There is no assumption made about Imports where the AKC conformation ring is concerned. The dogs are judged on their structure and movement, so whether or not they are American or Import is not even considerable. If you think you've had a dog that was identified as German in the conformation ring, don't make the mistake of thinking that it lost because of its heritage. For years, we saw Imports with roached backs and badly constructed forequarters. It's no one's fault but the folks who created that problem, that it became an identifying mark for an import. It's been said that Germany is working on that problem now, which is not only good, but it is reassurance that we Americans weren't making it up in the first place. If you want to win in the specialty ring, or in any AKC ring ... breed dogs that are good enough to win there. I promise you that not only does the judge and most of ringside not care where your dog was born, but the recently developing fad of looking for imports to breed to will leave your dog well used. If you reach that point and still find people who criticize your dogs merely because they are imports, I suggest you learn to ignore them because they are ignorant and their only accomplishment in life will be wasting our good air. Tom Langlitz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- In a message dated 1/4/2005 7:14:52 AM Central Standard Time, gsdk9rat@xxxxxxxx writes: Tom, you are 1/2 right. The other half is the anti-european propaganda. When I got my first dogs for breeding in 1986, we were thrilled in our naiveté to buy 2 lovely 1/2 American 1/2 German bitches. They were and still are the best females to ever grace our kennel. One of the girls had even had a German breeder buy one of her pups to take back to germany for their breeding program. Well, the American schutzhund world despised the American blood, and the American show world despised the German blood. We ended up placing their pups in police and sar, and stopped breeding them, and did not try to mix American and European lines again until recently. The animosity, bad mouthing, calling each others dogs trash, from either side toward the other, was EQUAL. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================