[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: >last I heard it was 10 years, 4 litters (raised on your ownpremises)
- From: <almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Peggy" <pmick@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:02:35 -0500
Thank you for the past history on judges requirements, it's nice to know
what has happened prior.
I'm sure we would all be surprised at some of the things that have happened
and how some got to be judging. Probably at this point ignorance is bliss
YIKES!! hahahahaha
Amy Safdir
Almanya Shepherds
www.almanyagsd.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peggy" <pmick@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: >last I heard it was 10 years, 4 litters
(raised on your ownpremises)
> The requirements in the past included judging experience, which meant
> matches (there was no set number, but less than 6 probably wouldn't have
> passed...I think I had something like 30+, but that was when there were
> lots of matches) and sweepstakes. There was an unwritten rule that one
> sweeps equalled two matches...unwritten, remember.
> Stewarding...6 assignments again was understood, but many of us
> stewarded for years. I even stewarded at the GSDCA National in Philly,
> for part of the show...had other jobs at that show, including putting
> people's numbers on them .......
> Club involvement, and general background, plus written references for
> each breed from well-known breeders and judges, kennel visits, all sorts
> of things were required in the past--there were no written numbers. When
> the 10-4-2 numbers were announced there were quite a few of us "old
> timers" who found those minimum requirements very offensive.
> As for paying the bills, I know two multiple group judges who did
> nothing more than pay bills...neither of them ever walked into a show ring
> until AFTER being approved for their first breed. AND at least one of
> them was dishonest in his application...I know because he asked me for a
> reference for one of the breeds he was applying for and became livid with
> me when I said "only after we watch a good sized entry and discuss it."
> This was a man I've known most of my life. He does German Shepherds, by
> the way............altho that wasn't his original breed.
> These two gentlemen never even saw a litter born, because their wives
> had the handlers do all the whelping.
> How did they get approved? Nobody knows.
> There is a woman here in the east who judges two breeds only. She bred
> one of those breeds and for quite a few years after becoming approved to
> judge, had never finished a dog that she even owned, never mind bred.
> BUT she knew a lot of people and was well liked by the important people at
> AKC....she'd been told she could have any other breeds she wanted, but
> then she went a little nuts and for a few years was "disappeared," living
> in her minivan and even going to jail one time for bouncing checks. Yes,
> true...my best friend bailed her out, paid all her bills, and gave her a
> home for a short time. She doesn't do Shepherds, thankfully!
> Many of the professional handlers end up judging Shepherds, even tho
> all they ever personally showed were terriers or hounds, or maybe toy
> dogs...AKC likes the former hanlders, and almost everyone I know who is a
> fairly new judge wants the Herding group because they think it's an easy
> group to judge. WRONG!
> Still, there are some all-breed judges who make the effort to figure
> out the breed...or are still trying.
> And we ALL know there are so-called "breeder judges" who make such a
> mess in the ring that they shouldn't be there at all..................
> Peggy
>
>
> almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>>I am newly provisional and it's 12 years, 4 champions 6 litters, 6
>>stewarding, 6 matches.
>>they want to see seminars, club involvement, etc. You also have to do a
>>pre application interview and an interview after you pass open book tests
>>on procedures and the standard......................even though i met all
>>the requirements and did alot way more than just pay bills :))) I did not
>>find it to be a walk in the park to get my provisional.
>>
>
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