I bet i would be surprised.......... I think AKC is currently doing a pretty good job at making sure they have quality judges, but as in any other thing people will find the loopholes or ways to be dishonest and not get caught. Amy Safdir Almanya Shepherds www.almanyagsd.com ----- Original Message ----- From: walflwr2@xxxxxxx To: almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: >last I heard it was 10 years, 4 litters (raised on your ownpremises) Hi Amy; When I became a judge in 1989, I had to jump through the same hoops you have mentioned (although it was still 10-4-2 in those days). But before that time, you indeed, did not have to have breed any champions in your initial breed prior to being given you license to judge it. I believe the AKC was then responding to many complaints that there weren't enough "fresh" faces judging because of licensing restrictions and so went 180 degrees the other direction. You might be very surprised at the names of those given licenses and later, prestigious assignments (including judging at the National) without ever having bred a champion, or, in at least one case I know of, having finished a champion GSD. Lanalee -----Original Message----- From: almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:02:32 -0500 Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: >last I heard it was 10 years, 4 litters (raised on your ownpremises) I did hear that years ago judges weren't even required to have bred champions or all the requirements they have today,,,,,anyone know if thats true ?? Amy Safdir Almanya Shepherds www.almanyagsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================