In a message dated 7/12/2005 8:08:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: I am doing like Amy did last week I think it was. She wants nothing to do with them. She will lay in the box and let them nurse, but cleaning them is TOTAL yucko. I have put them to her face and had them pee on her, but it just must be too soon. Question for my tired, tired mind. Dr. Miller said every 2 hours they should nurse and pee and poo. I cannot get them all to poo every time. Is this ok? THANK you ALL for your PRAYERS. THEY WORKED. Who wants one? I'm so glad that they all made it!! I have more experience with my other breed in puppy care, etc, but it IS my experience that sometimes for up to a day or two after a C-section, a bitch might act this way. The best thing to do is not obssess on it, and give her as much time alone with them as possible. NOW, I may take flak for this (something I'm becoming accustomed to), and it may sound a bit bizarre, but when I've had a mom who is not interested in cleaning her babies, I put a little bit of peanut butter on the area needing cleaning (haven't yet met a dog who didn't like peanut butter) and usually, they start licking right away, and that's the beginning of keeping them VERY clean. If she doesn't like peanut butter, try something else that she likes that is a little sticky, but I've never had the peanut butter fail. Keep us posted on their progress, I hope your first born make it okay! Lynn Lynn Brown - Ebonystar Schipperkes/Angelsgate Rescue http://www.angelsgaterescue.com/ & http://www.schipperkerescue.com/ Post Office Box 92283 - Long Beach, CA 90809 (562) 428-9832 ...special dogs for special people since 1972 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================