To answer all the questions: Angela Lloyd's father did have German Shepherd Dogs, but I doubt many of you will recognize his name, which was/is Jimmie Lloyd. Angela was showing a Dachshund, I believe, when she was best Junior...she was already apprenticing with Bobby Fowler, a top Dachsie handler. After winning Best Jr. at the Garden, she went to Crufts and was Best Junior there... and then she went to work full time as Bobby's assistant. When Bobby passed, he left his business and everything else he could leave her to Angela... Angela has handled Shepherds in this part of the country, altho it was a long time ago. She finished at least one specialty bitch for Bill and Johanna Gish, perhaps more. I know she has handled other dogs for them, and Johanna has a Dachshund that Angela gave her. Peggy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================