I didn't mean to say that you were...but I, too, have been at shows where the entry is barely worth watching...and, as I said, not just in Shepherds. Last summer I was watching a huge entry of Cavaliers at a show........and mind, I've bred them since before AKC recognition...........and I fell asleep. I will grant you that I can sleep anywhere, but this was the first and only time I've ever fallen asleep at a dog show, especially when watching a breed that should have been of been of compelling interest. There were over 50 being shown...and I think I'd have not minded owning 3, maybe 4 of them. One of the all breed handlers came by and bent down and spoke into my ear, thereby nearly causing me to have a heart attack.........he thought it was the funniest thing he'd ever seen, a breeder falling asleep watching her breed! I have seen some GSD entries, altho I have to say, not big entries, where I could have fallen asleep, too...now you know, that would never happen if there were good dogs in the ring, Lee! I'm sure we can both tell stories about judges who put the best last...we've both seen it happen enough........... Peggy LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx wrote: > >In a message dated 12/19/2006 3:53:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, >pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: >While I agree with Lee that there are times the GSD entry at an all >breed show is really all pets, I must defend the all breeds (shows, >judges, and exhibitors)... >and if you ask why, here's why: I do love judging specialty shows, but >I judge mostly all breeds...and at those all breed shows, I have had the >distinct honour and pleasure of awarding points to dogs and bitches who > > > >*************************************************************************** > >I may not have made my post clear but I was not putting down AB shows. I >also judge a lot of them and enjoy it very much. I would say that the entry at > >the shows that I am talking about would not be an entry you or I would get >when > we judge. There are some who will only show to AB judges and that is their >choice but I just wish they would show a better dog to those AB judges. It >makes it very hard when you see a class of maybe 8 and you see one great >mover >in there who moves like the standard calls for. Most AB judges don't know >what to do with it since it is different so they pass on it. I saw that at one > >of these shows that I was, a beautiful moving bitch with ground covering >suspended sidegait was placed last in a class of about 8. She should have be >the >easy winner of that class. That could be the reason some pass on bringing >their good ones to AB judges in the AB ring. I showed dogs in both rings so >I am > not putting the AB shows down. > >Lee Brown > > >============================================================================ >POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original >author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind >are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the >Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > >ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY >MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS >PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY >FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE >PROSECUTED. > >For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org >============================================================================ > > > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================