I do a single lesson, most of the time. Saturday I went to a home with a 13 year GSD, a 3 1/2 yr GSD, a 5 yr Russle cross, an 18 mnth boxer, and a teeny tiny in the house, they called me because of the new GSD pup. He is fine. The most senior I did not mess with much, he is older than I am and that is my limit. The 3 yr GSD, Max, I was warned would bite. He surely would. I said, bring him out, on lead and be the leader!!! Husband went from worry to control. Max is maybe a little friendlier than I like in a GSD, at least after he took my leadership, before that he was a proper GSD, sniff, and go, but not a dangerous dog. The Boxer was also supposed to bite. He is still something of a baby and was a doll to play with, if you don't mind Boxer drool. The Russel was something of a problem, but on lead was just fine. The teeny tiny peed on my lap, I drained her anal glands and she felt better. The point is that this man could never have taken his dogs to a group class as he was. He was mired in his certainty that his dogs were dangerous. If he had gone to a group class with any of them, they would have proven him right. Now, he is in control and the dogs are great. We walked them near the neighbor dogs who of course were trying to get through their fence and eat these dogs. I had both together on lead, the boxer and the gsd went at each other, I broke them apart myself and they calmed down. Then the owner took one then both then one again. He got to feel how to correct, when to praise and how to be in control. This could never have happened in a group class. Today I went to see another GSD pup, this one came with 2 8 yr dogs, one male one bitch. The bitch was easy to sway to niceness. The dog was not. He spent some time muzzled so I could touch his face safely. This was after he bit me on the left leg. I am bruised, but not damaged badly. I am pissed that he got at me, despite my efforts to keep him away. He did improve a lot, but he is far from safe. The wife is terrified of him, and has been from the start. The husband does not see how bad the dog is. He may be thinking that I egged the dog into biting me. The dog would have bitten anyone without putting him on lead. I instructed the people to buy crates, collars and leads. Time for real training for these guys. The GSD here? He is dominant and will be a huge problem if he is not managed. I will be back to that house!!!!! Then they can go to a group, when they have some control over the dogs at home first. This is why in home matters. This is also what in home should be. Not the trainer taking the dog away and teaching it to sit. But teaching the owners how to manage their dogs, directly with nothing between them and the dog, once I understand the dog. sheila --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================