Excellent points..and I do hear you.. so, one thing at a time.. how about people sticking to the rules already in place?? Isn't there already a rule about your question below?? So how come, when this does happen NO ONE does anything?? last year at a Canadian futurity the judge was a handler who not only handled for the owner, but lived on the same property as the dog he put up... what happened there?? Lots of people complained, but the people who could do anything, did nothing.. This is the kind of stuff that causes people to leave the sport -when this kind of stuff happens (why make rules if they aren't going to be enforced) Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds http://www.shadowacre.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> To: <stormygsd@xxxxxxx>; <GrnRam415@xxxxxxx>; <EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx>; <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 6:59 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: confessions of a dishonest JUDGE...long > Let me suggest we address one problem at a time, and how is this one for > starters; > > Should handlers show at Futurities/Maturities, under judges who are also > their clients? > > Ileana ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================