That's just all we need........someone that judges Pugs to tell us what we need to change in our standard to fit what THEY think is a clearer interpretation. .We don't need assistance with interpretation. Don't they know that a Breed Club can monitor it's own Breed Standard ?? We'll get locked into exact speciic inches in heighth, length and coat length and eye color and body depth and have to throw out some wonderful dogs because of some vague variation. I don't think this works on a working Breed like ours that performs such a variety of work with a variety of coat lengths, sizes, hocks, eye color, etc...... It might work on some adorable Foo FOO dogs that you just look at and brush...<G> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Peggy To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:42 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] hold on to your hats....... A judge who for the moment shall remain nameless, has come up with an idea that I believe is so awful I can't even express myself properly. She is instituting something she calls the Standard Assistance Program.......because she and some others have decided that some breed Standards "are not complete, have a myriad of unnecessary words, are not direct in their meaning, leave too many things up for "interpretation" (right or wrong) or that they do not render a clear written picture of the breed." (note the quotation marks, please) She goes on to say that most breed clubs do not have multi-group judges included in the process of writing their Standards. She "feels" judges should be assisting in the process, ". Since judges are the ones interpreting and applying the words in the Standard on a routine basis," She went on to say that her " purpose is not to write the Standard for the breed clubs, but to read, interpret and offer suggestions for better wording, based on what they are trying to say; to offer more clarity and understanding of their Standard from the perspective of a multi-group judge. There could also be things we would feel important that they have not included, or are not logical as we know it from knowledge gained from many other breed Standards, or are generally too simplistic or too superfluous." She has asked retired and active multi-group judges to volunteer to work on this project. She will select 5 judges to work on any specific standard that she (obviously she... who else?) has decided needs work, then she will coordinate the responses of those 5 judges and submit them to the various breed clubs for consideration........ I find her proposal to be so insulting, so outrageous, so condescending, and so offensive...I'm almost (but not quite) at a loss for words. Actually, I have plenty to say about it, none of it complimentary to or in favor of the idea............of course, the clubs won't have to made the changes...but.......... I can't help but wonder if she is doing this with AKC approval--probably she is, since it sounds like another half-assed thought from our fearless leaders, but who knows............. OK gang.........what do you think about this idea? > > Peggy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================