I have been wanted to post about this as well Sue! I too am a Lancaster Co. resident with a 717 area code I might add. I also despise these puppy farms. But as long as there is demand there is supply! Period! Instead of having billboards and websites warning against the County and area codes. How about education , asking questions. Yes IF prospective buyers read their books they will give you a checklist of questions to ask. If not they just look at quick, easy, cute! All they have to ask these (puppy mill) people a questions or two........ AKC would be a good start beings like Sue said most have gone to ACA reg. Another would be Are you involved in the breed? ANY questions, believe me. These people care nothing about ANY breed and most likely KNOW nothing about the breed(s) they are selling.. It is what's selling at the time! They will tell you that too! There are plenty of ethical, responsible dog fancy people here in this county, and that IS who they are going to hurt! They are not the only ones I might add. I have told many times in the 10 yrs I have lived here that people from back home ( Phila area) are told by there vets and others NOT to bother with 717 area codes, there mills!. Well we need to educate people on buying there next family companion not just ban counties. You hear a bunch of stuff about breed banning.............. well, this is County banning really!!!!! JMO! Linda DeLarso, who is NOT a MILL!!!! Narvon, Pa. Jolin Shepherds Visit our web site at: www.vonhornbergerjolinshepherds.com -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Tomlinson Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:30 PM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: highway advertising I'm a little late in posting on this, but felt I had to respond. This is about the billboard that Mainline Rescue put on the Pa. turnpike in Lancaster County. I have the dubious distinction of living in Lancaster county along side those Amish and Mennonite puppy farmers. I'm afraid that billboard was a huge waste of money for the rescue. The only people they are going to hurt is the true dog fancier, such is on this list, by asking people not to buy puppies from anyone with a 717 area code. Most puppy mill puppies are sold wholesale across state lines I might add. The rescue cannot touch those puppy farmers in any way since to do so would be interfering with interstate trade. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't like the puppy farmers either, but the rescue would have gotten farther by asking people to insist that Pa. state dog law follow up on investigations and prosecute when possible. As for the 717 area code...chances are if its a Amish or Mennonite advertising puppies he is giving out a cell phone number. They use cell phones since there is no listing in a phone book (so the church Bishop won't know!) Its easy enough to get a cell number that has a Philly area code. Besides all this...We have a local puppy mill that has been raided and shut down every couple of years. It goes by the name of Puppy Love Kennel and is operated by Joyce Stoltzfus (who is not Amish, despite the last name). Now, this kennel has received copious amounts of press coverage from people with pitiful sick little dogs to raids in the middle of the night. The last time she was raided she had to pay over $30,000 in fines (you read that right). Now, you would think people wouldn't buy from her. Yet, every other year she's in the paper again with the state attorney general investigating because of all the complaints from people who bought sick or dying puppies. The AKC has suspended her privileges. She just registers the pups with her kids names and I'm sure by now she is using the odd ball registries (like ACA) since most of the puppy farmers are too. Which is why the AKC can't do anything about puppy mills, they just drop AKC registration. The back lash from Lancaster County resisdents against Viacom (the billboard advertiser) is likely to earn the rescue some very poor publicity as well. JMO, SueT ======================================================================== ==== POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 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