Maggie, loved your post about Hawaii. But I have one correction. $700k in CA is now a starter home, not a mini-mansion, LOL! Laura Thomas -----Original Message----- From: gsdlady28@xxxxxxx To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 12:42 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] high priced homes vs puppy $$ Well, all I can say to that is the price of a home doesnt always coincide with the price of a puppy....I grew up in Hawaii, and they pretty much top the list as a whole for cost of homes and cost of living...(they are listed as #4 for Honolulu, which includes the whole island of Oahu, and #2 in cost of living, again for the whole island, as opposed to CA which ranks high for some areas, but varies greatly throughout the state, some cities being at the top, some much lower.) and we never got 1500 for a pet puppy! I moved out here to central NY in 93, and I think puppies were going for like 400-600 at the time...and I do not believe it is too much higher now from taking with my friends still there...just checked the local paper and saw one litter for 700 and one male puppy listed for 1300...mind you a 1200 sq' 3 br/1 bath home with less than 1/4 acre on the average sells for 500k (single walled construction,no basement, no attic,no heat, no a/c usually!...at least in CA if you pay 700k for a house it is a small mansion!) but the average salary in HI is not much higher than the US average...about 51k a year....which is only 8k more than the national median...not a proportionately higher salary when your mortgage is $3000 a month! So in Hawaii, people most people can't afford to pay big $$ for a pet puppy....they are too busy paying bills and buying food for their family! But the cost of raising a good litter is at least twice as high in HI, what with the cost of dog food being way higher because of shipping, vet care is off the charts, and just to get a good dog you often have to bring one in from the mainland ($$$$), pay $500 in shipping, then pay quarantine fees of around $1000(which even though they recently changed it from 4 months to one month if you go through a series of shots before coming, the cost of the quarantine stayed the same!) and then if you want to breed to a top stud ($500-$600), you would have to either ship your bitch out and b ack (another $1000 r/t), or do chilled or frozen semen....all to sell your pets for $500-$1000 if you are very lucky!! Thats not even including the cost and trouble of finishing a dog, when there only are like 10 all breed shows and 2 specialties a year! The people there who breed the good dogs (Pat Ayers, Hank Fujita) are not even breaking even, even if all goes well and you have no problems, they just have the $$ to do what it takes to get good lines for themselves. But the average person could not afford to breed good show dogs there, and forget about even trying to have the dogs pay their own way lol! (and people keep asking me why I dont want to move back there! HHmmmmm) Maggie Marshall Aeval German Shepherds http://hometown.aol.com/gsdlady28/index.html Website Updated 03/21/2007 Msg: #8 in digest Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:23:44 -0400 From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Price for a Pup I have news for you Jerseyites...when you think of high-priced homes most people will think of California -- with good reason. Five of the top 10 highest-priced markets for existing single-family homes are in the Golden State. Check it out here: http://www.bankrate.com/cnn/news/real-estate/reminiguide07/top-10-high-priced-homes-a1.asp?caret=3d And for the places with the highest cost of living, California leads the way again......look here: http://www.homesweethome.com/highest_cost_of_living_nation Washington, DC ranks 4th, and New Jersey only 6th...New York 8th, Virginia only 19th....these rankings are separated by tiny percentages (except for California)......and most of Virginia, for example, other than the Route 95 corridor, is quite rural......... and our vet care costs here in Richmond are more than twice as high as in Northern Virginia...which is the area that boosts the cost of living for the whole state. So everybody can stop crying..............since incomes are higher where the cost of living is higher, too.............! Peggy ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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