In a message dated 1/13/2006 10:24:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, epeningt@xxxxxxxxxx writes: Many top breeders routinely use antibiotics before breeding a bitch. Surprised you are not hearing from them as I know they are on the list. Ellen You're right we haven't heard. We've heard publicly from those who wouldn't, we've heard incidences of bitched getting pyo after all the good bugs were killed and I've heard privately from "top stud dog owners" who don't want to see/service a bitch on antibiotics (if, of course they are made aware of it). Sorry, if I had a bitch that had trouble conceiving, I'd want to get to the bottom of it and fix whatever was wrong OR if it was something I didn't want to deal with in future generations, not even try. Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================