I've been reading all the threads and, as usual, the topic has gone from a passionate debate to the inane. How we went from the problem of dyed and drugged dogs to double handling and, if I followed all the threads, terrorism, I don't know. I think it is called group hysteria. I have to agree with Kathy that dyeing has gotten out of hand. If some of you haven't noticed it or can't see it, be blessed in you naivete. For those of us who show regulary and still have our eyesite, it is common and obvious. Yes, there are some terrific hair jobs out there that I would be hard-pressed to find, but it becomes obvious where six months later you visit someone in their home and you can't recognize the dog. The problem has gone from hidding a gray muzzle or blacking a white toenail. OK, maybe it wasn't too bad when the white star of his or her chest was removed, but now it is the entire dog. I doubt newcomers have ever heard of a "bitch stripe," because they've never seen one! And, no, pink is not a natural color anyplace on a dog. It has gotten to the point, where it is very difficult to know what the dog or bitch really looks like. Now, I know some people don't dye there dogs and EVERYONE who has said that don't has also said their dogs have wonderful pigment. I haven't from anyone who said there dog is a washed-out black and tan and it took a long time to finish, but it was worth it. I'm just now sure how to test. Where -- saddle, toes, checks, muzzle? If we can find a way, it would be a show-stopper if every dog that was awared a select agreed to mandatory testing and the select title was taken away if dyeing was found. No punishment to dog, owner or handler. No accusations as to who did it. Just not a title. In my opinion, Kathy is 100 percent correct -- the dyeing would dissappear overnight. At least the most obvious and deceiving of abuses. As for sho would pay, let the GSDCA pay. On to drugging -- whether by using stimulants such as caffine or juicing up dogs with steriods. Again, I'm not sure how to test, but if there was a test, I'd pay for it. One thing I do know; if someone ever shot my dog up with steriods or anything else or gave them drugs orally, I would do my best to destroy their career in dogs. Yes, I know it is done and I've seen it done. Breaking of tails. Do it to my dog and I think you better go buy a lifetime supply of straws and learn to live under the Polar Ice Cap, because that is the only place I might not find you. The botton line is that I don't agree with dyeing of dogs, but if everyone is doing it and I want to play the game, I would consider it. I'm all for stopping it and would support testing. Then again, I would not consider dyeing my enire dog or using any chemical that would in any way hurt my dog. People, in my opinion, who put their dog's health in danger or cause there dog undo pain and suffering just to show are scum. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================