One thing that IMMEDIATELY turns me off about a dog is one that can stand on his hock...ESPECIALLY puppies...they shouldn't be able to do it IMO. The ones that I think are the worst, however, are the dogs who stand with a hock flat on the ground and their leg isn't extended that far backwards....and no, they're not sitting. I DO know that there are dogs out there that can place a hock flat simply because the muscles have been trained/stretched that way, but when setting himself up naturally the same dog will not stand on the hock. I'll never understand why people think that's a pretty picture, and then lament, moan, groan, and call an "ignorance foul" on those "not in the know" that think our dogs can't do anything but wobble around like disjointed twits. -- Jackie Marcato Shepherds Where beauty is found in function http://www.jackieshort.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================