The thought that the sire line is more dominant in one area than others is silly. You are getting a combination of the dogs genetic background and the best of the best sires still are only 50%. Granted some may give you a "Better" 50% or what you are looking for in the show ring, but it's still only 50%. We still see the "Angie" - Highland Acres Angie, ROM- ear coming thru 4 generations away from her! It's a wider based ear with a certain tilt(always up tho) and that can be passed thru her grandsons even. Maybe it started in a male behind her- but here we know it as the Angie-ear! Rear quarters we feel were greatly improved from the Fran-Jo dogs. Joanie would smile as she watched Ruby and say- that girls a true genetic combo of Fran-Jo rear drive if I ever saw it! That was from her Daddy- Sel.Ch. Quno. One thing I will say- in my opinion for what it's worth.... the male traits are easier to breed out/ or Lose, than the female traits. Tari Visit our New Website @ http://Kridlergermanshepherds.com Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:54 PM, EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx wrote: > The old time breeders I knew didn't think that way they did however think > the bitch influenced temperament more but only because of environment . > Fred > > > In a message dated 9/7/2012 9:39:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx writes: > > Interesting you mention this, would it not be also how line breeding- > inbreeding that is done too? > > It still will probably always be the genetic of the stronger one, the > old-time breeders I knew always believed it was 40-60 in favor of the mom. It > takes a very prepotent male to reproduce himself. > . > Theresa > > On Fri, 9/7/12, EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx <EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > This may have been what Herr Miller seemed to observe. But we now know > that every aspect of the dog what ever breed comes from 50% contribution > of > genes from Dad and 50% from mom. > Fred > > In a message dated 9/7/2012 2:23:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > _israelfriedberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > (http://us.mc1126.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=israelfriedberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) > writes: > > On page 403 of Von Stephanitz' book The German Shepherd Dog in Word and > Picture, he refers to a study by Herr Miller that concludes the following: > > "the father is said to have the greater influence on the interior and > mental > qualities, and also, as a rule, on the setting of the shoulders, the > formation of the hindquarters, and the carriage of the ears; while the > bitch, on the other hand has the greater influence on the withers. 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