Yesss I agree completely -- I know our wonderful administration isn't thrilled about so many yes I agree stuff -- However, this is special and I thank everyone for BARB WILLIAMS coming up with some splendid posts -- You go (geaux) Girl! Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Martin" <charangsd@xxxxxxx> To: <santanagsd1954@xxxxxxx>; <lfossland@xxxxxxx>; <f.fasano@xxxxxxx>; <d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx>; <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <gsdshowlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <gsdchablis@xxxxxxx>; <PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:36 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [gsdshowlist] Board Members Glad to see Barbara is back!! Angie Martin Charan GSD's Home of 08 So. Pacific BIM Charan's Masquerade of Kimber, both majors -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Lee WILLIAMS <santanagsd1954@xxxxxxx> To: lfossland@xxxxxxx; f.fasano@xxxxxxx; d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx; nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; gsdshowlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; gsdchablis@xxxxxxx; PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2009 3:34 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [gsdshowlist] Board Members OF COURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET US PLEASE, ALL GET TOGETHER AND GET 'PROTECTION' THRU CHANGES IN OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS, AND WHATEVER!!! FOR 'THOSE THAT SERVE THIS GSDCA!!!! BARB WILLIAMS ----- Original Message ----- From: PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx<mailto:PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx> To: lfossland@xxxxxxx<mailto:lfossland@xxxxxxx> ; f.fasano@xxxxxxx<mailto:f.fasano@xxxxxxx> ; d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx> ; nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; gsdshowlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gsdshowlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; gsdchablis@xxxxxxx<mailto:gsdchablis@xxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [gsdshowlist] Board Members You would have to personally get that sinking feeling when you've been served and then have your fellow Board Members vote "NOT TO INDEMNIFY". That in itself would make you ask is this worth it!? As discussed before, there needs to be a signed document either when joining the club or serving on the board that states you will not hold the club or it's members libel or bring action against them. It's time to say enough is enough! Gary Szymczak One who has lived it -----Original Message----- From: Liane Fossland <lfossland@xxxxxxx<mailto:lfossland@xxxxxxx>> To: f.fasano@xxxxxxx<mailto:f.fasano@xxxxxxx>; 'David Fritsche' <d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx>>; nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; gsdshowlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gsdshowlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; gsdchablis@xxxxxxx<mailto:gsdchablis@xxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2009 2:03 pm Subject: RE: [gsdshowlist] Board Members I would think that we have learned our lesson from the first - namely Hunte. Now this is the third within a short time (2 - 3 years?) and nothing has been done? Please, people, we need to get with it. If our Board members are not protected there may not be a Board in the future, and consequently no club. Who would want to be "in the line of fire" continuously? Let's not forget that these people are volunteers. It would be nice if they could get down to business regarding OUR GS's. Lee F. _____ From: gsdshowlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gsdshowlist%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:gsdshowlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gsdshowlist%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of f.fasano@xxxxxxx<mailto:f.fasano%40att.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:42 AM To: David Fritsche; nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:nancy%40heinerburgshepherds.com>; gsdshowlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gsdshowlist%40yahoogroups.com>; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l%40freelists.org>; gsdchablis@xxxxxxx<mailto:gsdchablis%40aol.com> Subject: Re: [gsdshowlist] Board Members NY has a similar statute- anyone wanting a copy email and I will forward when I get to the office-Kris -------------- Original message from "David Fritsche" <d_fritsche@gotsky. <mailto:d_fritsche%40gotsky.com> com>: -------------- Re-incorporate in Nevada. Nevada statutes provide that members of a board of directors, acting in good faith, in the performance of their duties are not personally liable. Several law suits have tried to penetrate this shield but have failed. Only illegal activity is not shielded. Dave I think we need to smarten up and figure out a way to protect our board members from being sued. Other clubs have protection for their boards, it takes us 3 times?of board members having lawsuits brought against them, when they are carrying out the rules and regulations which are the same for everybody. ?Cindy -----Original Message----- From: f.fasano@att. <mailto:f.fasano%40att.net> net To: Nancy Harper <nancy@heinerburgshe <mailto:nancy%40heinerburgshepherds.com> pherds.com>; gsdshowlist@ <mailto:gsdshowlist%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com; showgsd-l@freelists <mailto:showgsd-l%40freelists.org> .org Sent: Mon, Jun 29, 2009 2:10 pm Subject: Re: [gsdshowlist] Board Members I think too many people have raised conspiracy theories lately. This is a dog club - people volunteer their time and when the majority vote a certain way, you the members, should have faith in their actions, believe they are well founded and informed. If this continues no sane person of means will run for the Board. Those threatening suit can ignore the vote of the majority. 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