How about getting with other clubs-and putting together a "Master Breeder" Designation? Lots of products have the "Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval". I have the $200 Labrador (Rascal); purchased from a woman I knew as a co-worker, that I thought she knew what she was doing. Rascal will be 5 in July. He has already had a kneecap surgically reattached; is on major drugs for seizures, has suffered aspiration pneumonia. He is a sweetie, but I refer to him as the dog from the breeder from hell. When I called the breeder, just to update her; she was still breeding his parents, siblings, etc. She didn't see it as an issue. We also refer to him as the money pit. But he is LOVED! My 2 GSD, came from MO Murkland. They are healthy, Spunky with be the 8th generation that has been ofa'd. I can travel and show Spunk, cheaper than we can keep Rasc in pills and vetbills. Seems like to me, all breeds have their issues. Hip dysplasia "used" to be one of German Shepherds, why not get with the other clubs, create what constitutes the Master Breeder Criteria, for each breed; pool resources with those breeds, advertise, educate; and get rid of "backyard breeders, Walmart parking lot sellers, puppy mills, etc. When there isn't a demand, those business will close! Thanks for listening list! Pat Evans --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================