While I understand cutting costs, I think it is a mistake to eliminate futurity plaques for placements. Yes, I have plastic boxes full of them stored - maybe when the new room is done I can hang them all. Right now just the current ones are hanging. But for new people who buy that first "show puppy" it matters. You convince them to enter and show in their first futurity - they have to pay handling fees, travel, etc. They don't get any points for this. They are happy when they get that piece of wood - even if it is 4th. They got wood !! They buy the picture and hang up that plaque and the picture and show it to everybody they know. Take that away and they probably won't be back. Getting a rosette is just not the same. It is hard enough to keep people interested enough to finish a dog. If all they get at a futurity is a rosette, odds are they won't come next year. I also agree that it would make more sense to have an amateur handler class in the futurity instead of having another whole futurity - requiring a second judge and expenses for that. Pat Robinson ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================