I don't believe Fred is living in another time. the key is.."if you have a great dog"..not just an average dog that an exhibitor may think is great..but in truth is just fair. Since many handlers are now breeders...most are willing to trade some off for stud fees..or puppies just as Fred said. Most handlers are willing to allow you to make payments..if you tell them up front. Most handlers know a regular clients financial abilities. If you are a regular long standing client..most handlers are willing to work with you..not against you. If you are a good breeder..most handlers believe you when you say you have a "good" one and will commit to the dog sight unseen.. Most handlers like to win..and most like to be on the end of the lead of a great dog.The primary difference today is many are not willing to make the sacrifices..many want success fast..and many think their dogs are better than what they are because they see with their hearts and not their heads..I am sure to some degree..this has always been the case..but today it seems to be epidemic. C.Grainger > [Original Message] > From: barbarar <domara4@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx> > Cc: <marhaven@xxxxxxx>; <arelee@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 6/21/2005 7:36:55 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: futurities gone? there here their fine > > Sorry Fred, > You are living in another time. > barbarar > EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx wrote: > > >In a message dated 6/21/2005 7:56:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >domara4@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > > > > >>Yes, but are they the best? It is foolish to think that a nice puppy > >>will go on and be the best of the best. We know that doesnt work. > >>We already have Shows, what would we call a match if it wasnt a match? > >>What good is a brass ring if money is the factor that makes it work? > >>Barbarar > >> > >> > >> > > Get a great youngster and you will have no problem finding a good > >handler to show it at a price you can afford THEY WILL FIND A WAY. even if it > >entails future stud fee or puppies in the case of a bitch. When I got involved > >I was making $1.40 per hour at ford motor CO.and raising a family. I found a > >way to finance 1962 Futurity Victor CH. Eko-Lan's Aragon CDX If you want it > >bad enough and you have a good one you'll find a way and you will be shocked at > >the help you'll get. > > Fred Migliore > > > > > >=========================================================================== = > >POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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