Part of the problem with the Futurities is that we base our stud dog rankings on them. Dogs get x amount of points for progeny going "Reserve Reserve Best Opposite to the Almost Best Dog, but Not Quite".....or almost just for showing up. So the Winner, may have only beaten a handful of dogs, as was evident in males last year at the SP Fut, where the BIF male had to beat a total of 8 or 9 dogs....there wasn't even a JR class for the Futurity males. Now "getting wood" (stop it Evan) is great, but really Diane, your words "dumbing down" are perfect. Entries overall are dwindling because of the state of the economy. Many would rather show at ptd shows, where it counts for something. As much as I know I will be zapped for saying this, let's do away with the multiple qualifiers for the Finals, and make it Best in Fut/Mat Male and Female per region...period. Lets stop using the futurity system for stud dog rankings, and let them be what they were supposed to be ....a great puppy match. Let's give monetary incentives instead of stud dog points. I tell you, I would love to go to a show and get my money back in any form. But I haven't had enough coffee...so what the heck do I know. Kathy http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com PUP-DATED: MAR 1, 2009 HOME OF: CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's Leviathan CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle WE SUPPORT DRUG AND DYE TESTING ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================