[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: futurities
- From: "S.&C. Grainger" <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx, Gsdman2@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:41:43 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
I agree with both Tom and Fred. Personally I don't care for the reserve sys=
tem. I have won 2 futurities and went reserve in a Maturity. When I went re=
serve..I walked away feeling that had the system not been in place I wouldn=
't have gotten anything..so what the Hell did it mean??? However I can unde=
rstand the concept of rewarding young dogs or two outstanding specimans of =
the breed. Perhaps a compromise would be to eliminate the reserve in the ma=
turity competition, as the dogs are mature and there should be no guess wor=
k involved in how they will grow up,but keep the reserve system in place =
for futurities if, as Fred said, the numbers at the given futurity warrent =
it. Historically if if you go back an look at old Reviews, many animals tha=
t placed 3 or 4th went on to have better carreers than animals that won the=
ir futurities so at the end of the day they would not have been rewarded by=
the reserve system anyhow. acknowledging a junior puppy that has potentia=
l at his futurity by giving him a reserve at his futurity really only says =
that on that day he looked good it is not a guarantee that he will continue=
to mature in a positive way. He may get to the futurity finals and look gr=
eat or look really bad, either way you aren't going to side step the fact t=
hat it is a crap shoot. C.Grainger=20
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>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: futurities
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>In a message dated 1/8/2006 1:13:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, =20
>Gsdman2@xxxxxxx writes:
>The thing I dislike about the Futurity reserve is that the reserve dogs g=
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>into the same ring as the winners when they get to the national. I think=
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>reserves should compete against each other for the right to go into the=
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>Futurity=20
>finals rings, and that should be done at the national just before the=20
>futurity finals. I honestly think that would give some credit to the win=
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>being the winner, while at the same time add some excitement for the=20
>audience. It=20
>also wouldn't take anything away from the competition. There can be only=
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>winner in each category anyway. Unless you're really into winning anothe=
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>plaque, there is no advantage to being the actual winner of a futurity. =
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>Tom Langlitz
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>the futurity finals we are trying to find the best young dogs in the coun=
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>When the dogs are shown at the regional level some of the dogs are shown =
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>great disadvantage that would be the Jr. & teenage classes. Having a rese=
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>gives the judge the opportunity to give a younger dog who he might feel h=
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>great potential a second chance with a few more months development time. =
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>said I do feel that the entry must be at a certain level to merit a reser=
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>And I also feel the judge should have the option of not awarding a reserv=
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>Fred Migliore
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