It's also kind of like the "1st runner up" at the Miss America contest "If, for some reason, Miss America is unable to fulfill her duties..." Reserves allow each region to be represented at the national - my experience with the Canadian Futurity is that before reserves, often the regional winner didn't show up.. Canada has so few regions that with some of the winners absent the finals were sometimes quite pathetic.. once reserves were introduced (BTW>> Thanks Kathaleen for that one!!!<g>) not only were the reserves all showing up, but more of the winners as well.. it has made the finals often times very exciting!! AND, there have been instances when a reserve dog went FV (right Kate??) Kate's dog was reserve in the Western region to mine.. was I bitter??? Hell no!!!! Sonny showed great and deserved the title.. I think competition is a good thing.. the more the merrier!! Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds http://www.shadowacre.com/biologic.htm for TESTIMONIALS Give your dogs the Ultimate in Nutritional Support! BiologicVETNx -the PERFECT supplementation for Raw Diets! http://www.biologicnr.com/biologicvetnx/ Contact Shadowacre for breeder program Information ----- Original Message ----- From: <EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx> To: <Gsdman2@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:46 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: futurities > > In a message dated 1/8/2006 1:13:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, > Gsdman2@xxxxxxx writes: > The thing I dislike about the Futurity reserve is that the reserve dogs go > into the same ring as the winners when they get to the national. I think > the > reserves should compete against each other for the right to go into the > Futurity > finals rings, and that should be done at the national just before the > futurity finals. I honestly think that would give some credit to the winner > for > being the winner, while at the same time add some excitement for the > audience. It > also wouldn't take anything away from the competition. There can be only > one > winner in each category anyway. Unless you're really into winning another > plaque, there is no advantage to being the actual winner of a futurity. > Tom Langlitz > > > > ================================================ > I seldom disagree with tom but in the case of reserve at the Futurity. At > the futurity finals we are trying to find the best young dogs in the country. > When the dogs are shown at the regional level some of the dogs are shown at a > great disadvantage that would be the Jr. & teenage classes. Having a reserve > gives the judge the opportunity to give a younger dog who he might feel has > great potential a second chance with a few more months development time. That > said I do feel that the entry must be at a certain level to merit a reserve. > And I also feel the judge should have the option of not awarding a reserve. > Fred Migliore > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================