Could we move the entry closing date back say to some time in March? It won't make a great big difference, but could help. Since most everything is computerized now, it shouldn't be difficult for Rau to get the entries out in a shorter notice. I, though, do not feel the entry dates or the judges have much to do with the lower number of entries. Economics, handlers, lowered numbers of people joining, lack of education to the public (i.e.. why to buy a purebred and why to show it). Entries are down for Futurities and for shows. We need to fix that problem before we try to fix other problems. The costs of entries is getting Ridiculous. Clubs....Lower your costs for Puppies, for Pete's sake!! Puppies will help entries more than anything. Handlers are even charging way less for puppies, but clubs raised their prices, now that makes sense!!!! Tari Kridler North Lima, OH http://members.aol.com/kridlersgsd Home of 2003 Amer. & Can. GVX Ch. Kridler's Ruby & her father 2 x Sel. Ch. Kridler's Quno ----- Original Message ----- From: Sally Hayden To: bnbgsds@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: List Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 6:51 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: futurities I am sure if everyone put their thinking caps on a reasonable solution could be found. Since the futurities seem to be the most important shows in shepherds and a dog only gets to do it 2 times in their life some type of adjustment needs to be made. It is not like there is always the next show. I saw a lot of gorgeous animals that were stuck under the wrong judge and the owners could do nothing about it. ----- Original Message ----- From: bnbgsds@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bnbgsds@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: danannkennel@xxxxxxx<mailto:danannkennel@xxxxxxx> Cc: List<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:45 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: futurities Ok there are two sides to this and yes I wholeheartedly agree with Sally that an exhibitor should be able to change regions. Since futurity entries close in March with the first show being in April how would that work? As it was there was less than 4 weeks to do the catalog for the first Region. The only judge that inconvenienced anyone was Darol White's passing. I think most of the fancy knew well enough in advance of entry closing that Joan Ford wasn't going to be able to judge. Bob Neiman when there is a change of judges the > exhibitors should be able to change their entries to another region. -------------- Original message -------------- > Having now attended 2 futurities and talking to many of the exhibitors I think > the futurity committee needs to consider changing the start time back to 8 am. > Most of the exhibitors are already there the night before and everyone would > like to get back on the road at a reasonable time plus it would be much better > to have a early start for the dogs rather then having them running in late after > noon temps of 95 -100 ..The other thing mentioned- since the PC puts so much > priority on the futurity/maturities when there is a change of judges the > exhibitors should be able to change their entries to another region. 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