[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: flights
- From: Margery Golant <mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <windvane@xxxxxxxx>, <EJDegen@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:00:09 -0500
The location of the herding trials is not going to be in Concord, it will
entail a drive of (if I recall correctly) about an hour. I will check my notes
when I get home tonight and report back, unless someone who is familiar with
the details is able to provide them sooner).
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From: "Windvane" <windvane@xxxxxxxx>
Date: 2005/02/11 Fri AM 11:56:04 EST
To: <mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <EJDegen@xxxxxxx>,
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: flights
what is the snag with the herding at the nationals? I missed that?
Emilie C.Woodruff
Windvane Kennels
5877 Gardi Road
Kamloops,B.C.
V1S 2A1 Canada
http://www.geocities.com/windvanekennels
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From: "Margery Golant" <mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <EJDegen@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: flights
Exactly, Julie. Thanks for pointing that out !
And, that major USAir hub status is why I (and I presume a number of other
Board members) voted for Charlotte. I have also, a couple of times in the
past few months, posted a lot of specific direct flight availability on
large aircraft (capable of 500 crates and larger) from major airports around
the US to Charlotte, to assist those who want to plan to fly. Raleigh was
also a wonderful site, but not as accessible by air, which tipped the
scales.
As an Eastern site, Charlotte looked ideal - it is relative central in the
Nort-South line, not right on the eastern edge, very drivable from many
places and a USAir hub. The facilities are really great, there are a lot of
hotel accomodation options, a moderate climate, so not likely to be too hot
or too cold. The Herding problem did not materialze until later, after it
was a done deal. Hopefully this issue can be sorted out for the future, if
Charlotte works out well otherwise.
One suggestion I am considering making is for the Board to formally adopt a
"punch list" of key considerations, and that we then have all the data on
that punch list for all sites under consideration. This would not be easy
to do, because some of the answers are not readily knowable at that
preliminary stage (such as the Herding difficulties regarding Charlotte, or
the local ordinance in CA that required the National to move to Daytona in
2003), and because SH*T happens. But, if we have a standardized set of
criteria and facts that are collected and reviewed for every single
potential site, it might help to clarify the selection process.
Margery Golant
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From: EJDegen@xxxxxxx
Date: 2005/02/11 Fri AM 09:41:51 EST
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] flights
Charlotte is a *MAJOR* hub for U.S. Air. There are 120 cities served
NONSTOP from the Charlotte airport by a variety of airlines. So what's the
problem
that people are having THIS year?
U.S. Air is still a reasonably priced airline for traveling with pets. It
still costs $100 each way for a German Shepherd in a 500 varikennel. We
are
currently living in the southeast U.S. (Savannah area). I didn't have time
to
drive to OR and with the cost of gas, it was cheaper to fly anyway. Cassie
& I flew U.S. Air to the national, connecting through Charlotte. No
problems.
When we lived in Germany, U.S. Air was my airline of choice because their
price for pets and people was often the lowest I could find and U.S. Air
always
took good care of the dogs. I also think Northwest does a great job with
dogs, but they've priced themselves out in my opinion. I won't use them
again
with dogs. BTW, the first year they raised their prices for pets, I
complained and took it up the chain. They gave me the old price for the
dogs, but it
was a one time deal. That was the last time that I used them. It was too
expensive flying 3 dogs back & forth to Germany with their new pricing
scheme.
NO ONE *likes* to have to take 2 flights (through a connecting airport),
but
that's life and traveling. We've lived overseas several times and I've
flown my dogs all over the world with me. My choice is always to drive if
I have
the time, but I won't hesitate to fly again if I want to get somewhere
fast.
If you don't want to fly, then drive. If you don't have the time to drive
and you don't want to fly, then good luck.
I wouldn't mind seeing a centralized national, indoors OR outdoors. I also
don't mind it moving around the country. I do think it's rather silly to
hold the national in a "corner" of the country, it DOES make sense to make
it
more centralized (Utah for a west coast national, MO/KS for central; OH,
KY,
NC, GA for access from the east coast). I believe that we'll have larger
entries. But then, I'll still fly or drive to get there regardless of
where it's
held.
Julie Degen
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