In a message dated 12/15/2004 11:00:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, gsdk9rat@xxxxxxxx writes: Flanking (grabbing a handful of flank and twisting and or yanking) is what some do to get a dog to react in an "aggressive" manner (supposedly to show "defense") because they do not know how to bring out (or, there is nothing to bring out) the dog's defense drive. I do not know a good evaluator who would do this to a dog ----------------------------------------------------- Flanking is also a good indicator if a dog is suitable for a young child. If it illicits a growl or worse, it is not a child's dog. If it just spins and licks the hand, it is probably suitable for a child. There are lots of uses for flanking. Syd SYD MAILBERG 425-432-4144 23910 SE 276TH ST MAPLE VALLEY, WA 98038 Updated Website Fabio/Viggo _http://www.kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com_ (http://kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================