We have many times, on this list, discussed why we don't want mandatory spay and neuter laws and breeding restrictions. Here are several examples of why people ask ( or demand) these things from our law makers. These have all happen in the last several weeks in my area. ( Lancaster, Pa. county....a known puppy mill area) Dorothy Jocoby is a retired widow who had lost her Westie to old age. Her late husband had given her the dog and it had brought much comfort to her when her husband passed away. She bought a new puppy from a local puppy farmer for $500. Someone she thought was a nice Mennonite family. At first the Westie seemed fine, but a month later she was having trouble eating and opening her mouth. Pa. does have a puppy lemon law, but the problem must be diagnosed in the first month. Turned out the dog had something called lockjaw, a hereditary disorder common to Westies. The woman spent $1300. in treatment to no avail and the puppy was put to sleep. The breeders of course won't reimburse her. The second person bought a bulldogg puppy for $1500. from a local farmer. This wasn't a licensed kennel, but they had 5 or 6 females and a male bulldogg. Her puppy seemed fine at first, but after a couple of months developed "cherry eye" first in one eye, then the other. Surgery for both eyes was $400. Then a month after that the dog came down with generalized mange. Her vet talked her into taking the dog back to the breeder telling her that generalized mange was hereditary as was the cherry eye. The breeder offered her $500. for reimbursement. When she asked about the other puppies in the litter the breeder told her most of his go to a dealer and he has no idea if any of the others developed it or not. He also told her casually, he would treat the puppy until she cleared up and re-sell her since there were always other people wanting adult females to breed. She tried to tell him the dog would produce these problems and the mange might not go away as she had treated it too and it failed to respond. His answer was " we will see". She was out $1000. Lastly, one of the members of this list was at her own vet when she overheard a man discussing his lactating bitch with the vet. It sounded like the female had an abcessed mastitis . He was more worried about how much it would cost to treat the dog then IF it could be treated. The vet was urging him to bring the dog in, but the guy didn't want to. The vet comfired to our list member that the guy was a puppy mill breeder and perhaps the dog could not be picked up to be treated. The vet was outraged and frustrated too. I ask you, why are we defending the right of these people to breed dogs? How many of these breeders have dogs that are living or have lived in agony? I don't know what the answer is either, but I do know when the general public has experiences like this, documented experiences that they can show to our lawmakers then laws will be made to protect the public. We need to stop protecting these large scale breeders and start teaching our lawmakers and the general public what a responsible breeder is and why we need them to protect us. JMO as always, Sue T. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================