I don't know who wrote the post that Rachel responded to...but I'm responding to it, too. With the exception of certain big shows and some popular clusters, dog show entries have been falling for a few years. Obedience may be holding, agility and rally have upped the numbers everywhere...and basically, most serious show people do not order pedigrees from AKC. AKC is catering to the pet people, and expecting conformation people to pay through the nose to give more and more to support all the new programs, most of which are aimed at pet owners. It all began with the multipage registration forms that replaced the old blue slips...it cost a lot more to print those and then to process them...and there was nothing wrong with the blue slips in the first place. The new form was designed to impress pet owners, who often didn't bother to send in their blue slips. The Gazette has become more and more pet oriented in recent years as well. Then it was possible for mixed breeds to show in certain performance venues (part of the reason those numbers are up). Then there was the big push to accept commercial breeders into the fold.--an idea that was resoundingly defeated by the conformation folks, much to the chagrin of the powers-that-be at AKC. Even micro-chipping was aimed at pet owners. Sure, show people may lose a dog from time to time, but the overwhelming number of dogs that get lost are pets, not show dogs. Don't bother to point out exceptions...I said SOME, remember. The highly regarded AKC stud book was found to be pretty flawed ... and then we had the "multiple sires" rule, which, while helpful to some honest people, was basically regarded by many as a way to get around being ethical. And now, we have the "who's your daddy" rule...which will shoot to hell many pedigrees and, therefore, many breeds, because people are already figuring ways to get away with something. Judges are approved who know little or nothing about the breeds they apply for, which makes showing a total shot in the dark, and while on THAT topic I will say that Kathy Tank's report of the German Shepherd ring being perceived as totally political is very correct...the only thing wrong with her report is that many people see the entire dog show world that way. If Randy thinks the people who believe that are not knowledgeable show people, he is wrong. We have reached the point where the people with the most knowledge know full well the show ring is as crooked as a piece of rotini... it would be nice if they'd all admit it. This was never an activity for limited pockets, but you could play and do well...not so anymore. It was a family activity, or so AKC kept telling us... not anymore. When old-timers get together, the eventual topic is always the same "How much longer can we go on?" Estimates vary from 6 years to 10, maybe 15 --and then the dog showing hobby/business will be thing of the past. The AKC has forbidden its judges from judging at UKC events...why do you think that's so? Because people see the attraction of UKC...no handlers, no baiting, no politics. The new owner of the UKC is a former employee of the AKC, and is still (I think) listed in the Judges' Directory...and the AKC hates him. It's no secret...and many of these new rules are being made to counteract the influence of the UKC...under the guise of helping us. No way. Our dog world is being destroyed little piece by little piece, and we are paying for it on the way out. Peggy Rachel Anderson wrote: >original post: >"entries in obedience and rally are climbing. People are ordering pedigrees >for their dogs. "Pet people" far outnumber "show people." You might >think, why?" > >Because in obedience, rally, agility we can do it ourselves and still win, >or at least earn the qualifying score and receive the title, with our own >little hands, with our own beloved dog. > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================