There is the key. It is another chance to have fun, see our friends and show
young dogs. I remember in 1982 when I showed my number two Select bitch in the
Maturity and didn't win my class.
It is fun to show, a chance to have another show, and does not harm. While the
quality at the National continues to astound, why not save the system.
If it is losing money, or is disliked by those who attend, (note, I say those
who attend), then we should consider changing it.
But, from what I saw in Arizona, everyone had a great time, and as one of the
loser, I see the value in the program. But, it is time to get rid of the
amateur class.
I support the system every year with my dogs and my entries and still enjoy
seeing youngsters out there out of certain breedings and visit with friends I
only see at the Futurities and/or National and meet some new people as well.
Evan
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris S. Kimerer <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Showgsd-l GSDList <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, Apr 27, 2015 9:09 am
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Fw: Re: elephants
I don't think one could police wether an owner or breeder has "never" used a
handler, and don't really see the point in that, BUT, what you are referring to
by having a class as such was and is still addressed. Over the past several
years, the amateur futurity system failed miserably. So far I've only attended
one Futurity/Maturity this year, with the new program in effect of having
amateur classes versus a whole Futurity/Maturity separately, and I don't see
the entries in it either. If owners/breeders truly believed that if the
handlers were not involved their dogs would have a chance, then their actions
don't support that, or we would see bigger amateur classes and before that,
would have had much bigger entries in the Amateur Futurity/Maturity's offered
in all 9 Regions at the end of that program.
I don't believe the system is used as a breeder showcase or
evaluation tool the way it was in "the old days" :) It is financially not
feasible to take/show an entire litter, those days are truly gone. So the
entries are lower, animals shown are usually very deserving, and it's just
spending ones money more discriminately. I do use a handler, no way could I
run with any of my dogs, especially in a big ring, not even in the amateur
class. :)
I'm with Carolyn, I don't have the answers either, all I know is I support the
system every year with my dogs and my entries and still enjoy seeing youngsters
out there out of certain breedings and visit with friends I only see at the
Futurities and/or National and meet some new people as well.
Chris
Chris S. Kimerer
Hillside-Tanbark Kennels
"where good bloodlines never die"
From: Theresa-GSD Stolz <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Showlist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; jolisgsd@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:05 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: elephants
I do not see any reason why a GSD owner or breeder without a Professional
Handler would
want to show their dog today at a Specialty Show Several handlers are also
judges so know each other and
the owner without a handler would never place. Solution would be a class for
only owners or breeders that have never used a handler. If just one club tried
it they might be surprised of the outcome of how many GSDs might arrive.
At the ABS same situation as most judges know the Professional Handlers and
will chose them if
they are there. Years ago there were not as many Professional Handlers and the
individual had
a better chance. I do not see things changing except probably less and less
GSDs being shown
in the future. As people get older and no longer are here it is only going to
get worse in time.
Theresa
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