----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Cochran This is not directed at Lee but to show folks in general. One piece of advise on doubling. If you think you can run fast enough to keep in front of the dog and handler then the dog probably isn't worth showing. There is never a reason to double a dog when you are behind him. Dogs don't move very well looking over their shoulder. Don't get ears until the handler has finished posing the dog. If the dog is moving at a beautiful gate don't feel the need to double even more.If you need to disappear from your dog just stand still they will not be able to find you if you were moving.A loud noise made over and over just bores the dogs after a very short period of time. It also drives most of the other people nuts! Dogs are more beautiful walked into a stack and not hand set. A win picture is no time to start a tug of war with the dog. While doubling smile and be happy if you are happy the dog will be more relaxed. TC ************************************************************************* This is a great post and 100% right. Dogs WALKED into a pose always look better.......but getting a handler to do it is not easy. Work out a deal with your handler.....if they will pose the dog more natural....you will double the dog better. <G> If necessary buy different treats for your handler to encourage him. Do not try to run in front of the dog to keep it going........you will not win that race.....EVER! In a bind.....hide behind another double handler who is doing it right. <G> Do not frustrate the dog by calling him over and over and over. Please pay attention to the world from his point of view.......HE HAS A CHOKE CHAIN AROUND HIS THROAT and a strong armed handler on the end of his leash and he CANNOT COME TO YOU!!! You are only frustrating the dog to the point of shut down. ALWAYS meet your dog at the ready ring with lots of praise.....he worked hard to get to that spot where you last patted him.......give him lots of pets for finding you again. YOU may not deserve it.....but he doesn't care about the judge, the handler the ribbon or the points......all he knows is you have been calling him and disappearing and he finally found you so you will quit ringing that bell and running away from him. Your dog is concerned that you may never get trained correctly............<G> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================