You judge what you see. As a judge you have to decide what the structure of the dog is. You can do that when the dog is on a loose lead, some can do it when the dog is pulling, some when the dog is slow, and some, never, no matter what the dog does. If you want to double your dog, then you risk the judge seeing something displeasing, and perhaps your dog looking better. Some handlers want the dog pulling and perhaps for a good reason. I don't much care if a dog is doubled under me. I try to see what the muscles are doing, what the structure is, and how the dog moves. If the shoulder isn't there, you can double, slow down, pull like crazy or do anything else, it isn't there. Don't think all judges are so stupid that they are being fooled. Most of them judge the dog, double handling isn't going to stop a good judge from seeing what is going on. The reason the AKC is so down on it, is it is something easy to criticize. The reason they don't make a rule against it, is that there are so many ways to do it, and not be detected. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together In a message dated 12/16/2007 6:27:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: How can one see a GSD gaiting properly when they are pulling on a leash trying to get to their owner. **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================