In a message dated 2/15/05 1:02:47 PM, Danannkennel@xxxxxxx writes: << I never have and never will understand the thrill of beating other breeds of dogs under judges who may or may not really know the breed standards in rings where dogs take 3 steps and turn. >> Well, I know it always gave me a thrill when my dog did well in the group and beat some awsome dogs that were great representatives of their breeds. I have never been fortunate enough to have a BIS but the Group ones are some of the highlights of my dog show life. Even better than a BIF and a BISS!!! Just my opinion, but I was floating when that happened. Yes, all the all breed judges are probably not real knowledgeable about GSD's but then I can say the same about some of the so called specialty/breeder judges! That's what makes this hobby so fun...we all have a different view...I love all breeds and I love specialties...guess I just like dog shows period. JMHO Kay Springer www.showboatgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================