I agree Doris. I do conformation and obedience so I vote for those judges. The obedience judges DO have to be someone that I am familiar with. I know nothing about tracking, agility, so I do not vote on those judges. I think that it is just common sense not to vote on something that you know nothing about. The people who do these other activities probably would want the best judges that they can get and that is not going to happen if people start checking off names and they have no idea what they are doing. JMO. Amy Greenhut Justrock German Shepherds Gen Oak Leopard Tortoises &  Tortoise Rescue Behold The Turtle,  He Makes Progress Only When He Sticks His Neck Out A Quote By James B. Conant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris E" <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: lfossland@xxxxxxx, "showlist" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:38:03 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] disappointment As long as all the members of the GSDCA vote on all the venues, we will have problems.  For myself, I do not vote in categories in which I do not participate. This seems logical to me: Why should I choose Obedience judges when I no longer exhibit in Obedience? If the ones knowledgeable in each venue concentrated on that, we would not be arguing the virtues and faults of the judging. I might add, I do not know how to implement this suggestion.<G> Doris E ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008.  All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================