Could we not just offer up some of the AR folks instead? (I've been reading Dave's book and kicking myself for letting it happen). Mary-Anne -----Original Message----- From: sheila lieberman Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:28 PM To: zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx ; the list Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: coyotes Invisible fence only keeps your dog in, sometimes. They have no impact whatever on anything not wearing the collar. This works with most stupid people.......stops them from spending money that they should use on training.....for coyotes I recommend a dog bred to ward them off, like a Pyre, Anitolian, or Merimma......that's what stops predators from eating what we value. sheila ________________________________ From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx> To: kenpuglisi@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 6:20:36 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: coyotes They will also use their bitches in season to lure dogs out into the woods, or to the edge of invisible fencing, where the pack kills them. I have a very difficult time explaining to some would-be puppy buyers that invisible fencing will not keep these kinds of things from happening. Zoa Dr. Zoa Rockenstein www.riverrockshepherds.com Home of: Grand Ch. RiverRock's Hotel California RN HSAs CHIC (Callie), RiverRock's Straight From The Heart PT (Sera), RiverRock's Karla v. Kenlyn (ch. pointed), Kenlyn's Nakita (Nikki, co-owned with Kent Boyles), and RiverRock's Heart of the Matter (Luke, ch. pointed) ----- Original Message ---- From: Denise Puglisi <kenpuglisi@xxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 4:45:06 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] coyotes I called the Dept of Agriculture about the coyotes. They told me to bait them, shoot them & bury them. Sounds mean and cruel but......They will kill puppies and young dogs and climb fences to breed your bitches. Denise ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. 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