Yes we live in NY also and had one encounter my husband WILL never forget,,this happened last year around this time,,prime breeding season for these coyotes so the DEC tells us..We had seen what I thought were just dogs prints around the vehicles and the front of the house and all the way around the dogs play yard,,so we assumed it was just a stray dog that we haven't seen.. Needless to say at that time husband worked days and leaves the house around 4 am,,he gets out the front door and just about 15-20 ft from the door something made him look up and there was a coyote standing right behind my truck,,normally the DEC says that they usually run away but this one didn't,,my husband immediatly stopped where he was and just stood there for a moment,,he figured if he yelled and screamed at it shaking his thermos it would take off,,well guess what,,you got it, it didn't... that darn thing howled at him, he couldn't beleive the noise just one of those made,,Well my husband decided to take a few steps backwards to the door and fumbling for his keys as he locked the door when he left and it took 2 steps towards him cutting across the front lawn at him,,fortunatly the coyote stopped because it heard the dogs barking,,of all times we want them to bark my daughter didn't know what was going on so she told them to ssshhhh quiet. Although getting to the door the coyote decided to wonder away but only to the middle of the driveway..giving enough room to get to his car...Well you think this thing would leave,,NOPE>>>> After sitting in his vehicle warming it up because the window was fogged he figured it took off..Well he's ready to leave turns on his headlights and guess what was standing right in front of his car,,and right after he turned his light on he howled again,,now my husband is thinking he's calling for another one because it didn't go away. When he put the car in drive it decided to wonder to the apron of the driveway give 1 more howl stand under the street light and then finnaly wondered away Now thru all this I never heard the dogs bark ,I actually slept thru the whole thing... The local DEC said that normal coyote run as soon as they see humans,,they thought it had mange until I mentioned that my one sheltie bitch was in heat, And they said that something had to be wrong with it, NO!! it didn't help the situation but for it to do what it exihibited by not going away from my husband. Was not normal behavior. They will stalk the property when a bitch is in heat but not exhibit what this coyote did by not going away..Anyhow we live in a town where you are allowed to discharge a firearm for target practice and in cases like this..But we are only allowed to dischagre a 22. So they local DEC advised we may want to get one. I don't like guns but if it came near anyone of us or the dogs I would definitly take care of it.. Needless to say we haven't seen one yet,,no tracks yet,,and my one sheltie bitch came out of heat just before coyote mating season started, which if anybody's interested FYI the mating season from what the DEC said is from the middle of Feb. to the middle of March.. I surely never want to encounter what my husband encountered,.. Deanna Regal Shelties Cambria, NY 14108 www.geocities.com/regalshelties He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. ~Anonymous~ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================