[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: consistency......not rocket science

  • From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "barbara17236@xxxxxxx" <barbara17236@xxxxxxx>, "Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:59:24 -0800 (PST)

Thank you for reposting these sites.  I hope that everyone who hasn't seen 
them yet will thoroughly examine them.  It takes a thorough examination to see 
the whole picture, which is important even if it is painful.  Angelic 
Shepherds, for instance, does breed whites.  If you had looked at the "Our 
Future" link, you would have seen their brand new white stud dog.  Owl 
Grove identifies several dogs that they plan to show in UKC.  They are shown 
in stacked poses and presented as show dogs.  K9 Pines got their dogs from Owl 
Grove and also shows some of them in stacked poses.  People who do not have an 
interest in conformation showing generally don't do that.


Dr. Zoa Rockenstein
www.riverrockgermanshepherds.com 
Home of Multiple Group Winner  GCH RiverRock's Hotel California (Callie) HSAs 
RN BN
Group Winner Ch. RiverRock's Straight From The Heart HSAsd
and the new kid RiverRock's One Fine Day


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> From: "barbara17236@xxxxxxx" <barbara17236@xxxxxxx>
>To: zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:30 PM
>Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: consistency......not rocket science
>  
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>  
>www.gaardog.com      SHOWS IN UKC 
>
>www.kerstoneshepherds.net    SHOWS IN UKC.  Has shown in WGSDCA once or 
>twice 
>
>www.angelicshepherds.com    No whites on their males or females pages? 
>
>www.furrarikennels.com   White Shepherd breeder in Canada.  Shows in AWSA 
>and UKC 
>
>www.pandashepherds.com   White Shepherd Breeder in Ohio.  Shows in AWSA and 
>UKC
>
>www.7csshepherds.com     Has a link to the WGSDCA webite but not a member 
>and has NEVER shown with the WGSDCA or WGSDCII.
>
>www.k9pines.com     Doesn't show.
>
>www.owlgrovegsd.com     Might show in UKC one day.  Not affiliated with 
>the WGSDCA or WGSDCII
>
> 
>
>
>Barb Hively - PA 
>DNA.  It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd  
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: barbara17236 <barbara17236@xxxxxxx>; marhaven <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
>Showgsd-l <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 12:53 pm
>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: consistency......not rocket science
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>If you look at the websites that Carolyn sent on white breeders who also 
>produce 
off colors, you will see that every single one of them participates in 
shows!�  Dr. Zoa Rockenstein www.riverrockgermanshepherds.com� Home of 
Multiple Group Winner �GCH RiverRock's Hotel California (Callie) HSAs RN 
BN
Group Winner Ch. RiverRock's Straight From The Heart HSAsd
and the new kid RiverRock's One Fine Day >________________________________
> From: "barbara17236@xxxxxxx" <barbara17236@xxxxxxx>
>To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Tuesday, February 
>28, 2012 11:21 AM
>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: consistency......not rocket science
>  
>I breed whites� and I don;t breed "rare" off-colors.�  Donna (Pharaoh 
>Revenge) 
breeds whites and not rare off colors.�  Rose Ingram (WGSDCII President) 
breeds 
whites and not rare off-colors.� Anne Utter (President WGSDCA) use to breed 
whites and not rare off-colors.� 
>
>The people who breed the whites and off rare-colors do not compete at WGSDCII 
or WGSDCA shows (except for 1 breeder in KS).�  There will always be rare 
off-color breeders in every AKC breed out there.� � And, most of those rare 
off-color BYBs (don;t health test, show, etc) got whites by accident from those 
rare off-color breedings, or from another rare off-color breeder.
>
>And, don;t get me started on what breeders of this or that color have done to 
the GSD breed in general.� 
>
>The colors are NOT the problem.� The "bad" breeders are the problem.�  
>Every 
GSD color has 'bad" breeders.�  $$$ rule the world and that is why 
puppymillers 
and BYBs will never be stopped.
>
>
>
>
>
>Barb Hively - PA
>DNA.� It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: pharaohsrevenge <pharaohsrevenge@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Showgsd-l 
<Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 11:26 am
>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: consistency......not rocket science
>
>
>The one single consistency you will notice on every single one of those "rare"
>ff color breeders� is that they ALL breed whites!!
>HAT is my problem with whites.� � I've said it before.......it is not the 
>white  >ogs that
>s the problem.......it is what people that breed them do.�  People don't 
>hange!
>
>arolyn� � marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >ww.Marhaven.com >
>From: Pharaohsrevenge To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 
>012 6:28 AM
>ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] It's not rocket science
>The "real" white GSD breeders do not believe in promoting pandas, livers, etc. 
>here are bad breeders in every breed. Trying to pin the actions of these 
>reeders on whites is ludicrous. Your reasoning of separating the whites 
>ouldn't stop the breedings of pandas, livers, etc. 
>breed whites. I also breed sables and black and tans and participate in AKC 
>hows with those dogs. I bred the only AKC and canadian CH with a white parent. 
>our generalization of white breeders is wrong. There are many of us trying to 
>reserve an integral part of the GSD breed that was once not a DQ!
>Donna Beadle
>ww.eclipsekennels.com
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