Sables are commonly called 'brown dogs' IF they have a dark red/brown undercoat. The 'grey' refers to the sables with the light undercoat. Now I understand why folks get confused.....if we don't speak teh same language how is a newby supposed to learn????? On a lighter note I always envied "Brownhill" for locking up a GREAT brown dog kennel name!! And they have all those beautiful sables to boot!! LOL Suzanne www.tsalishepherds.com Home of BIS/BISS Ch Yancy HIC HT PT RA CD TC CGC BH, Ch Flash, Ch Flair, Ch Mousser, Tess [150 PLUS ROM points/40 ATAA points], and Lil' Miss Gilli RN[Mjr Res Winner]! Website updated 08/06 -------------- Original message -------------- From: Erynbrook@xxxxxxx > One more opinion about the term "grey." I have, over the last 35 or 40 > years, heard the old-timers (those who know a heck of a lot more than I) > refer > to > sables as either greys or browns - something like "one of those damn grey > dogs" particularly from those who were not fond of sables. Yes stramgely > enough, > there are people who don't like sable/grey/brown dogs - hard to believe. > > Susan Casey > Erynbrook German Shepherds > Front Range German Shepherd Rescue > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================