[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ......but it's all in the game

  • From: "Mike Crowson" <ruready8336@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Barbara Galasso" <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:48:31 -0500

Who's at fault for the thereapy dog winning?
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From: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Barbara Galasso" <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:33 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ......but it's all in the game


> Your right Barbara on most accounts..it doesn't hurt ANYONE..it hurts the
> BREED.If anyone loves the breed as they are proclaiming they do..they
> detest seeing mediocre win. I have a very close friend who entered a
> 'therapy" dog in a show to help build a major. the dog won the major. This
> should never happen. This sport is about people as much as it is about
> dogs..I will agree. HOWEVER..making people feel good about what they do
> should not take precedence over the breed. We have a responsibility to be
> "guardians" of the breed..not just a few of us..ALL of us. I agree that
> there are not many great dogs.There are more "good" dogs. I don't have a
> problem with "good"..I have a problem with less than good. If we are
> unwilling to draw the line somewhere..then we might as well go down the
> road..get "King" out of his dog house,.(after all he has no disqualifying
> faults) he is big and pretty..and finish him and then praise the people
for
> doing so. Christine Grainger
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Barbara Galasso <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: 7/10/2006 7:37:52 PM
> > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] ......but it's all in the game
> >
> > I have been watching the posts about the mediocre dogs and was reading
> > peoples different opinions on the subject.  I didn't think I'd comment,
> > but there was so much discussion about it, it got me thinking.  (Yeah, I
> > do do that some times), LOL!  Just my thoughts on the subject:  There
> > are very few GREAT dogs.  Going to this years past National Specialty
> > after not having been to one in some time, I walked away saying to
> > myself that I saw some very nice dogs, but very few Great ones!  Any of
> > you who were there, I wonder how many of the dogs that you saw, did you
> > think were Great?!?!  However, I saw many GOOD dogs who were, indeed
> > deserving of their championships who either had it now or were on their
> > way to attaining it.  When you have that many dogs in an arena, you are
> > also going to see a fair share of mediocre dogs as well.  Just what sets
> > the great dog apart from the good dog and what keeps the good dog from
> > ever being great?  Is the great dog, the moving machine?  Is the great
> > dog, the beautiful breed type?  Does the great dog have both of these
> > attributes going on for him?  Ideally, the later is preferred.  IMHO,
> > the great dog is the one who knows he is!  It's all about presence and
> > the air of greatness that he brings in to the ring.  He's the one who
> > makes you look at him/her.  The look of eagles, as the standard calls
> > for.  I read the sympathies for the "Boss" dog on the list a few weeks
> > ago.  I never had the privilege to see this dog, but by all of the
> > tributes people wrote about him, he seems to have been one that most
> > people would agree was a Great one!  I want to make a little analogy
> > here, so pardon me if I digress.  I worked in the beauty field for many
> > years and was around some beautiful models, and beauty representatives,
> > and I taught beauty school.  Now being surrounded by so many beautiful
> > women, you would think if you were judging a beauty contest, you'd be
> > hard pressed who to choose.  Of all these beautiful women, there were
> > very few who really stood out, except one.  Oh there were more beautiful
> > than her if you were just looking at faces, but she had that something
> > extra that made every man's head turn when she walked in to a room.  It
> > never failed.  And she really didn't have to do much.  All she had to do
> > was walk in to that room.   It was called charisma.  How many people do
> > you know who have that?  The same holds true for our dogs.  How many of
> > them have charisma?  IMO, that's what sets the great ones apart from the
> > good ones and the mediocre.
> > Some people seem to take accept ion to a mediocre dog who has attained
> > the title of champion.  I really don't care one way or another, and I
> > don't believe most breeders should either.  Lets face it, your top
> > breeders are never going to use this dog in their breeding program
> > anyway.  So it's not like you're going to see anyone breaking this
> > person's door down to use their dog.  I'm happy for anyone who has put
> > the time and the expense into this sport of ours.  And that is just what
> > it is.........a sport, or a hobby.  I say let the little guy alone.
> > He's not hurting anyone.  He's having a good time, and that's what we
> > want to encourage...........people having a good time showing and
> > winning with their dogs.  Perhaps, they could show some of the too
> > serious breeder/exhibitors how to have a good time!   It would seem to
> > me that more breeders should be worrying about the health of some of the
> > bloodlines that they are promoting rather than worrying about if a dog
> > is mediocre in conformation.  Some will breed knowing their lines carry
> > genetic faults, but criticize those who show a dog that's just
> > mediocre.  What's the sense in that?  And how many top breeders sell
> > mediocre dogs to a novice person telling them that they are a good one.
> > I have seen it time and again.  So who is to blame then.........the so
> > called professional breeder who sold the mediocre dog in the first place
> > or the trusting novice who bought the dog thinking he got a good one?
> > After all, he paid a good price for this mediocre dog!
> >
> > In any sport.........baseball, football, basketball, etc., you have your
> > superstars, and then you have the rest of the guys who make up the
> > playing field.  They are all needed to make a winning team.  Well the
> > same is true for our breed.  You have your superstars (rare that they
> > are), and you have the rest that make up the entries that give you the
> > majors at the shows.  With out the good ones and yes, the mediocre ones,
> > you wouldn't have enough dogs to put on a show.  Entries are down as it
> > is.  There are not enough great ones to make a major.  And perhaps,
> > those who show the mediocre dogs are the ones who are having the most
> > fun of all.  They're not taking themselves so seriously.........instead
> > they're having fun doing what they're doing.  There's room for all of
> > us.  When showing stops being fun, that's when we lose people who turn
> > to another sport or hobby.  As our president of the GSDCA always
> > says...........let's encourage, not discourage!  Sounds good to me.
> > Best wishes,  Barbara
> >
> > -- 
> > Barbara J. Galasso
> > CHIEFTAINS GERMAN SHEPHERDS
> > Visit my website at http://chieftainsgermanshepherds.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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