Carolyn, what do you mean when you say "weird" croups? Flat, steep, short, or what? Paulette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <denwil2007@xxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:52 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: breeding question From: Denise Williams Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] breeding question I was reading an article on breeding today, and it stated that breeders should know which faults in the breed are hard to eradicate, and which ones can be fixed in one generation? Does anyone have any comments on faults that are very hard to fix, and those that can be fixed/bred for in one or two generations. Denise W. ***************************************************** YAAAAAAAAAAAAYY!!! A possible discussion about dogs and show dogs!! I'll always bite.........<G> Of course the fault we would ALL love to eradicate is ANY health issues! Conformation-wise.....we stay away from those we think 'haunt' you the most in our opinion. I hate the way these crop up and 'haunt' a line ......and seem to be difficult to "fix". We avoid them like the plague........ <G> i.e. Missing teeth, ring tails, bad backs, long weak loins, and weird croups..........YIKES!! I can't stand bad feet either........ but they seem relatively easy to correct. Everything else seems relatively easy to solve. The key of course is getting it ALL in one great dog that is mentally and physically sound with great correct side gait and yet agile, powerful and athletic.............sigh...... Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================