I had a Asslam grandson, he was a Can. Champion,OTCH and American U.D. and a Can TDX. He was a very nice boy, I bought him from Olivia Fowlis, in Portland Oregon she was his breeder, although he was not a movement dog as the dogs of today. He was a balanced mover and had no health problems. He was my buddy, and the dog I learned from. Lori N. would remember him. I was trialing him when she was working Butch. Emilie C.Woodruff Windvane Kennels 5877 Gardi Road Kamloops,B.C. V1S 2A1 Canada http://www.geocities.com/windvanekennels ----- Original Message ----- From: <NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:47 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] bloodlines there were two dogs imported to the United States between 1955and 1960 who had an overwhelming influence on the American German Shepherd. Troll v Richterbach and Bernd v Kallengarten. ten years later two german seigers were also imported. these two dogs were smaller and more agile then bernd or troll but americans did not use them. they were bodo v leirberg and asslam v klammle. the german dogs today do not resemble any of them. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================