You are so right, Laura, and it does not seem to be much of an issue in the specialty ring ; however, in the AB ring, some of the judges know so little about shepherds they grab at straws to make their placements. Sad ! Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: GrnRam415@xxxxxxx To: kennadale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] black to skin Ok, back to a question someone else asked (sorry, can't remember who) Bitches do seem to get that ticking along the back. Dogs seem to maintain the black in the saddle. Dogs as young as 3 yrs old, tend to get some grey on the chin. If these are not disqualifying faults, why is there a need to enhance? Someone else said the enhancement of the ticking along the back, presents a more solid line. Sorry, paraphrasing. But, I don't get that concept. I don't see how ticking can give a rolling effect. Maybe I am dumb, but I sure don't look at the color of a dog when I am watching he/she move. JMHO Laura Thomas http://www.treasureranchgsds.com/ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================