A solid black bred to a sable will often produce black sables. The reason is the black is a recessives color, in other words the black parent has nothing other to give then black. If the sable parent does not carry black then it can not produce solid black...right? However, sable seems to be dominate and if the sable being bred has a dark outer coat, not a brown or grey, the pups will often be black sables. The undercoat is usually cream since there was no red color coming from the black parent. On the other hand, sable bred to a black and tan/red will often intensify the red color. What I think is interesting is a solid black will sometimes have a few cream colored hairs around its hocks and toes. I've been told this is still a solid black geneticly. SueT ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================