Kathy(Pinehill)I'm in that situation with my black. Never been in the ring(people kid friendly), has issues with other dogs she thinks she's an Alpha bitch knows a choke and leash needs work gaiting owners both Darcy and I can't gait her. Do I spend $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$(handler my expenses Darcy's expenses to get her there for 3 shows plus entry fees @28 a pop)to ring train for her Maturity. Shows are in Feb Mat closes in Mar. Nerves will be a mess. Is she worth the risk at just over 2 not sure. But I've always had more guts than brains. Bob Neiman / Walled Lake, Mich. Owner Barkalot's Felonious Assault AKA Brat and the other half of B'N'B Breeder/owner of UKC GR Ch.B'N'B-Barkalot's Cherish RN Co-owner of UKC ChSandyCreek-B'N'B-WC's Christmas Star AKA Echo Co-owner of Ketlyn's Black Widow Proud member of the GSDC of Am. since 1996 --- On Fri, 11/19/10, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: back to futurity plaques To: rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx, bnbgsds2000@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, November 19, 2010, 6:45 PM I like points. Always have. You can have the plaques <VBG>. Seriously, by the time a person sends a dog away to "camp", has them trained, (God forbid we let puppies be puppies OR judge puppies like puppies.....oh no...they need to be pros to be noticed!!!), then by the time the same person sends the dog to a specialty weekend or two prior to the Futurity so now they are REALLY pros....well I can have a quality youngster 1/2 way finished or more for the same $$$$. And don't say I can't because I'll give you names:) Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 11/19/2010 5:08:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx writes: I am inclined to agree with you Bob. It is afterall a PUPPY MATCH. The only real "perk" these days are the plaques. If those are taken away, we may see a reduction in nominations or entries. I personally like to see the plaques lining our wall...rosettes? No thanks. . 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