You are right Barb, there is more to this story than what has been assumed. The disgruntled, fired, stalking, kennel help called Ralph and told him his dog had been misbred. When Robert found out all that had happened, he called the AKC and asked for help. The rest is history. What no one knows is that the AKC told Robert that if he admitted the misbreedings, they would suspend him for one year, and fine him. Robert refused. This was in a letter we all saw. (We, being the friends locally). They were harassed by phone, and by authorities. The kennel help sent every department of the local gov. to the kennel, saying the dogs were abused, the kennel was illegal, etc. The dept of health, the animal control, the fire dept, the dept of agriculture, etc. What finally burst the situation was kennel help siccing CPS on Holly and Robert. Meanwhile they were getting 50 phone calls from said kennel help a day, tying up their business, (boarding), and making life unbearable. Out of the 178 litters there were 3 that were misbred. The kennel help admitted doing the breedings to various friends, (who tried to help the situation). . Robert is breeding show cattle at this time, very successfully. Donna is the dog person, and has been breeding and showing GSD for at least the 25 years that I have known her. She has bred 2 ROM bitches, and a Select # 2., and numerous champions. She is widely regarded as one of the best and nicest breeders in the country. She does not need anyone doing her breeding for her. I was really hoping as a friend to both of them, that this disgusting, unfair episode would finally be buried, and forgotten. I realize that this is a touchy subject to those on the list that were affected, and it was a tragedy for all. The interesting thing about all of this is that there was a litter or two who tested for both Andretti and Schnebly. What does that tell us? Syd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- In a message dated 1/23/2005 10:17:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx writes: Suspended from doing what? From showing? And if so to what end? He stills breeds. I guess you can't stop him from breeding...so he isn't allowed to have his name on a litter or? Do people still buy from him? I guess so since he has a kennel. .... Why on earth would anyone buy from him??? For the lineage "name"??? What a disgustingly foul thing to do....and I gotta really wonder about people that would buy from a breeder that is a cheat and liar. Geeeeezuz, all in the name of money???or what???? Colleen Suspended from all AKC activities. However, it is my understanding and in all fairness, that Robert Scholes blamed his kennel manager at the time and has protested his own innocence. I have never been involved with him or any of his breedings, etc. so I am only stating here what I heard about the event. My first-hand knowledge is lacking.. barb w. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Give the gift of life to a sick child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital's 'Thanks & Giving.' _Click Here!_ (http://us.click.yahoo.com/5iY7fA/6WnJAA/Y3ZIAA/ktVolB/TM) --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amergsd/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amergsd-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SYD MAILBERG 425-432-4144 23910 SE 276TH ST MAPLE VALLEY, WA 98038 Updated Website quarter German pups and Amer bred pup _http://www.kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com_ (http://kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================