Oh, you said it. Wolf hybreds are not for the faint of heart at all. I happen to have a pure bred southwestern wolf living somewhere nearby. This one could not have survived a pack. He rolls over upon approach. No wolf pack would bother to feed such a submissive dog. So, for him, he is lucky to have humans for his pack. He lives with a couple and their 12 year old son. I see them often with the parents in the front seat the wolf and child in back, just like a dog. And he loves to look out the window, just like a dog. These people have had a wolf in their lives for years, and they know what they are doing, including risking all kinds of legal problems. They live in a county the specifically restricts wolf ownership as an exotic and requires special licensing. They have none. But I will never tell. He is a great dog, as wolves go. Sheila RihadinK9@xxxxxxx wrote: Basically it says that hybrids endanger people and their pets as there is no proven vaccine effective at protecting hybrid animals against rabies. This is untrue... at least in the case of wolf hybrids. There was a study done in MI (can't remember where exactly) that showed that Wolf and Dog DNA is virtually identical. I strongly suspect that they would find the same with the Coyote, though no study exists that I am aware of. And it is PROVEN that oral rabies vaccine does have an effect on raccoon populations. They have programs in the Northeast that drop oral vaccine laced food for wild raccoons. Not that you'll ever see a "hybrid" raccoon, LOL! That said, in general I do NOT believe most people should have Wolf hybrids. They are not dogs, and respond differently to training, etc. They have a MUCH, MUCH strong "pack" instinct. Dogs are bad enough with that, LOL! And we all know how the average pet owner has so many problems with just DOG pack structure! On the same token I do NOT support GOVERNMENT banning them. Ginger Cleary, Rome, GA "One of the greatest delusions of the world is the HOPE that the EVILS of this world are to be CURED BY LEGISLATION." Thomas B. Reed 1886 _http://www.rihadin.com_ (http://www.rihadin.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ Sheila of Miami Mernydex GSD's Loving Obedience Dog Training --------------------------------- Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================