Tammy... It is thinking like yours that wil;l help perpetuate these problems. Everyone should be told what is happenimng with any, all, breeders dogs. Theset things seem to assuum that the breeders arte at fault...It is NObodys fault...no one has the ability to predict these problems. As a responsible breeder with the BREEDS welfare at heart...all cases of Toxic Gut, Bloat T, and mesenteric torsion ahouls be commonm klnowledge to all breeders. They can do with this information what they will! I am deeply saddened that you have this secretive attitude!! Chuck Kruger dvm ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================