YOU ARE SO RIGHT! (I also do not want to get into trouble for bad language) It does seem that someone should say THANK YOU to Tish for sending it to the right committee instead of complaining again and again. She has worked endlessly for this club (and local clubs before) and no matter what she does all she gets is complaints. Stop it already! This is a DOG CLUB - and this is our HOBBY. Remember??? Ruth ________________________________ From: "edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx" <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: TISHW@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 5:11 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: amending bylaws Good for you Tish.....the motion passed by the board forbidding board members from discussing their comments about board activities.....is...and please listen carefully.....B.S.....I would have used the two words but Stormy word have spanked me....NATIONAL SECURITY IS NOT AT STAKE!....this is why folks get pissed off at the board...gee, and I was having a good day....if I were on the board, this is something I would never follow....Ed Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: TISHW@xxxxxxx To: BAERENTATZE312@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:50:00 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: amending bylaws Well, Pat, I think the President is entitled to ask committee chairs to  look into something without having board approval.  And from what I hear  board members on the "other list" have been posting their comments about  everything.  Being President should not deprive one of answering a  question on something.  The mail I receive indicates members would prefer  to hear from me far more often than they do.  Tish     In a message dated 8/15/2011 12:27:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  BAERENTATZE312@xxxxxxx writes: In a  message dated 8/14/11 7:03:00 PM, TISHW@xxxxxxx writes: > I have  already asked the chair of the by-laws committee to look at >  reducing > the number of members on the board. > >  Tish > > I have a question regarding the above  statement.  I just talked to a board member this morning and  they knew nothing of a request to the By Law Chair regarding the reduction  in the number of Board members.  Was this something done with  Board approval, at the latest meeting?  I guess my second  question is according to the minutes from the January Board meeting, (Page  51 of the June Review) what ever happened to the motion that was passed  and approved that: â??Official Internet communication shall be limited to  Constant Contact messages approved by the Executive Committee or through a  forum conducted and governed by the Board.â??  Is amending the  by-laws not a decision by the club/Board? Why was a motion approved and  then seemingly ignored?  Is that a protocol we should  embrace? In my opinion what Sam has described below in order to facilitate  a change in the by-laws via a petition would be the most dependable method  to accomplish that outcome.  'Looking at' and actually doing  are two very different things. Regards, Pat > >  > In a message dated 8/14/2011 7:46:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time, > israelfriedberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > I am  publishing the following because I have been asked this question >  (can > > members cause the bylaws to be amended) by several  people. > Article VIII  of the Bylaws, which is on our website,  specifically states > that > the  Bylaws may be amended by a  petition of the members.  The following > procedure >  would have to be followed (this is a brief  summary): > >  1.  The lesser of 300 or 10% of the members must file a  petition  for > an > amendment with the Corresponding Secretary of the  club.  Each amendment > would > have to be the subject of  separate  petitions.  For example, decreasing > the >  Board > to 9 would be one  petition, and prohibiting the club from  reimbursing > travel, > meal and  lodging for board members  to attend the meeting, would have to > be > another  petition. > > 2.  the Correspondeing Secretary of the club  must submit  the matter to > the > Members for a vote either  in February or August (or such  other sooner > time >  as > determined by the Board). > > 3.  the  approval of 2/3 of the members who return the ballot is required >  in > order  to approve the ballot. > > There is no  requirement that the amendment must  be approved by the >  Board. > However, the amendment must be approved by  the  AKC. >  ===========================================================================POST  is Copyrighted 2011.  All material remains the property of the original  author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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