Hi List, Gee-you are all so helpful and smart !! first of all, I should have said that I feed Diamond Lamb and Rice (adult food) to all my dogs.--which is 23% protein--and I also feed raw and cooked meat and raw veggies. I also give Vit C 500 mg /day. Pups are never on slippery surfaces--only on sawdust (ships) in the house in the pen at nite and outside on the ground with hay for bedding during the day. I will try the gelatin and maybe the cod liver oil--must do a little more checking first but that sounds ok to me. I guess I do agree not wanting to do too much calcium so I will stay away from that for now. thanks for all your info--and BIG thanks to Coleen for the LIST of posts from her collection !! I still hope to hear from my buddy Paul Root annd Doc Kruger and then my info will be complete ! ;-) Thanks to all of you and DA LIST IS DA BEST !!! Cheri Cheradon ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================