Hi Barbarar; My post is not about the "best" puppy growing into the best adult......just my opinion on this continuing insistance by some that the Futurities are still just a "puppy match"......as I don't consider that the case at all anymore. They are the FUTURITIES and we go to the FUTURITY Finals at the National. I suppose one would have to win the brass ring to appreciate what it would mean to them. We know it isn't easy! I am sure there are many that money wasn't the only factor. That was never my point either....... Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "barbarar" <domara4@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Yes, but are they the best? It is foolish to think that a nice puppy > will go on and be the best of the best. We know that doesnt work. > We already have Shows, what would we call a match if it wasnt a match? > What good is a brass ring if money is the factor that makes it work? > Barbarar > > Carolyn wrote: > >> I believe the Futurities ceased to be a "puppy match" the very day they >> made the 'Brass Ring' for the top winners to be: >> FUTURITY VICTOR and MATURITY VICTOR and VICTRIX!! >> >> You put that kind of importance and title on it, and it UPS THE ANTE >> for the >> Handler fees and the win!! It is no longer a Puppy Match. As long >> as we name >> "the TOP TEN" stud dogs with the term VICTOR, it ceases to be a >> Match. If >> >> I have no problem with the Titles and ratings. I just think we need to >> give it >> up with that "term"....(match) ...... and try to move on. <G> >> Bottom line.......it's the exense that drives most away......but the >> "Brass Ring" >> competition continues to attract those willing and able to spend the >> money. >> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx >> www.marhaven.com >> >> >> >> > > > > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================